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I have not seen any picture of young Sir Malcolm Campbell and do not know his biography. Then there was the Koln Hugot Modellfabrik eindecker of 1911, also with Delfosse motor ( don't know if it was 3 cylinder). A at Kln ,wich built two ED (by the way ,both and our bird are not totaly dissimilar) ,the first with an Anzani ,but both had ,at least on the pictures I have uncoverd fuselage.

I am not sure whether it was possible to see him in the place where the two photographs were taken. Cheers Marek I am not an expert on uniforms and do not know what the origin of the cap is. :lol: Kees Since we're guessing now, I will chime in with the 1911 Escher monoplane Re: Flughaven Chemnitz. The next pioneer was the Chemnitzer engineer Haves, who made his first attempt in 1910 and failed [Haves Eindecker mit Escher-Motor]. BONJOUR TOUS 1910 Geschichte der Klner Luftfahrt ( It is said here and in " Lange " that during the " Deutschen Rundflug 1911 " the Dr Joseph Hoos flew in Kln the AEROPLAN-FABRIK ULRICH HOLZMINDER EINDECKER .(built in Holzminder/Weser) More , I don't know Hoos (a jurist) was at the same time owner of the G. According to Lange (1970 version) the Holzminden Eindecker was entered (angemeldet) for the Deutsche Rundflug 1911, not necessarily flown.

Given the data from the album that the machine was flown in Cln, there is not automatically to be concluded that the pilot was also from Cln or even that the Eindecker was made in Cln or in the neighbourhood. It curiously contains two photos of an aeroplane never seen before anywhere else.

Yet otherwise, according to Marek, the album is unrelated to aviation in all ways.

) conclusion would be for the Eindecker on the pictures of this Challenge ?

By the way I cannot identify the man in the Eindecker as Bruno Werntgen, given your assemblage.

The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......". The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are.In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. The two-wheel undercarriage looks not very sturdily constructed and most likely to break in the case of a heavier landing. I looked at Austro-Hungaria too : This challenge machine has much in common with the CIHAK's types ,particularly the J 2 : the undercarriage ,the rectangular wings ... The hat in the first picture looks British, It is very interesting observation – my first impression was exactly the same when I saw the photo for the first time (more precisely – British Navy cap). I do not know as I do not have the Lange book, sadly. Cheers Marek If you aren't sure of the engine, I would suggest a Delfosse eindecker as a possibility.Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet. VN4/TNFi LMz T_7I/AAAAAAAAC9o/o T17sl SD6x I/s800/278GOOD LUCK!!! Unfortunately, I am not an expert on uniforms and do not know what the origin of the cap is. perhaps there is some clue useful in determining the nationality of the person or the organisation/institution he belonged to. VN4/TNQna2JYu8I/AAAAAAAAC-I/i Lm Q_Og Yo Yw/s800/278-3Paul, I have no information about the men visible in the pictures – there are two different persons in my view. The year is a bit off (1910), but there was a 3 cylinder Delfosse engine.Kees Rod, reading your piece I was wondering what your (tentative ?) conclusion would be for the Eindecker on the pictures of this Challenge ? Based on A) the Klner album holds no other aeroplanes; and B) the two (1911) aeroplane photos are not taken among a crowd that one might expect to see it these were taken at an air meet for example -- but are seemingly casual photos.

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Kees, Richard, I think I know what you mean – but not this time. I am far less than an expert on uniforms, frankly I don't know anything for sure about them. On January 22, 1911 he succeeded but with a monoplane of the Chemnitz firm of Bernhard Escher at an altitude of three to five meters and a flying distance of a few hundred meters. no photo nor specifications, so I can't rule it out. It was a product of the Aeroplan-Fabrik Ulrich at Holzminden at the Weser.

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